New Paperdoll Graphics

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Fri May 27, 2005 5:15 pm

This thread will start off small, but it will build up over time

wasnt satisfied with the current musket graphic... looked a bit soft for U7.. soo... tada

Male sprite

Female sprite

please note that the hand piece is there to show it extended around the musket... if thats not possible jsut say so and i can change them some

more will be added when I finish them... i'm going to focus on the ones that just dont seem right to me.. and if anything I post looks good enough, use it.. i dont mind

Sissy Knox- not logged in :( · Fri May 27, 2005 6:35 pm

It looks like a real bad-ass musket...

Making paperdoll gfx is hard, tedious work. First, there's the drawing. Then comes the coordinate wrangling which always seems endless. I tried my hand at it and might take it up again in the future (it's going to be a very boring summer, I can just feel it). I like making alternate outfits (not just armor and weapons). It's a lot of work, but very rewarding to see your stuff in the game!

Another plus side is, that it improved my own kisekae art. Whenever I was working on a set, I'd think..."Well, at least it's not those damned Ultima VII paperdolls!" and suddenly, the project would seem that much easier...

I really like what you did with Trellek's gump, too. The shading is lovely.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat May 28, 2005 1:57 am

well thank you

like ive said before, in other topics, im no programmer.. and I barely understand Exult Studio... id never be able to get the sprites into the program on my own.. so i figured whatever i get done i should post here... this is the place where the masters of the program dwell, after all

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat May 28, 2005 5:31 am

from left to right by row:

Male Leather Collar, Gorget, and Magical Gorget

Female Leather Collar, Gorget, and Magic Gorget

BG Fellowship Medallion, and the four types of Gold Lockets

yes, I know the last row is all just recolors, but its recolors for the sake of consistancy

Gruck, curiousis! · Post by **Gruck, curiousis!** » Sat May 28, 2005 6:19 pm

Looking good!

Gradilla Dragon · Post by **Gradilla Dragon** » Sat May 28, 2005 8:35 pm

Are the hands graphics really necesary for the musket?

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat May 28, 2005 10:21 pm

i really dont know.... just thought it looked good

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat May 28, 2005 11:13 pm

i mean.. if you htink it doesnt, i can get rid of em

Post by **wjp** » Sat May 28, 2005 11:35 pm

They'll cause a problem when wearing gloves/gauntlets.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun May 29, 2005 1:04 am

ooooo... didnt think of that at all... guess i WILL change it then.. lol

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Mon May 30, 2005 2:19 pm

Male and Female

fixed em like I said I would

The Viking · Post by **The Viking** » Mon May 30, 2005 11:16 pm

So where do we download these and how do we put them into the game?

Post by **Dominus** » Tue May 31, 2005 2:58 am

download: right click on the image and save image as.
How to put in the game: someone of the Exult team (preferably wjp) has to add them to the data files and point exult to them. When this is done, you need to download a new Exult snapshot.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Tue May 31, 2005 3:42 am

like he said.....

if i had the knowhow to do it I would myself.. definitely...

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Tue May 31, 2005 10:42 am

obviously not a paperdoll sprite, but insead an in-game sprite for the magic cloak in the SI paperdoll graphics that, as far as ive seen, is not only unused but doesnt have a normal in-game equivalent

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Tue May 31, 2005 2:45 pm

next!

various rings!

in order:
enchanted ethereal ring
normal ethereal ring
blue (crystal) ring
gold ring

on teh enchanted one, the blue and green should cycle (like the non-paperdoll version)... normal ethereal should only have the blue cycle

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Tue May 31, 2005 3:13 pm

HOLY NIGHT OF THE LIVING RECOLOR.. lol

yeah.. not impressive.. or interesting.. just did this for consistancy with the Black Gate in-game sprite for swamp boots... basically its add this, or replace the in-game graphic with the greenish ones from Serpent Isle.... which, honestly, is what id suggest.. they look cooler

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Tue May 31, 2005 3:16 pm

oh.. and i did these to hold off on teh next three till i feel a bit better (sick)...

the throwing axe, cadellite helm, and oil flask

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Tue May 31, 2005 5:08 pm

and now i gotta give a big "oops".... I forgot Rowena's wedding ring before... here it is

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:36 am

yet another "no biggie" one.. im still sick but prolly gonna work on the oil flask tonight at least

should be obvious... decided to do this just because the ones that are still in exult from way back when (when they were added) are a bit.... dated now... considering how far the client has progressed.... please realized that these are most likely even temporary for me, sitting there until ive drawn completely new ones

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:38 am

er.. and i dont know the color limitations on the faces.. like at all.. so if they need to be less to be useable, tell me, I know darn well how to touch them down without loosing quality

SB-X · Post by **SB-X** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:08 pm

What is the last one? I can't tell the difference.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:46 pm

if you mean the set of faces, its for BG

try scrolling through the avatar faces available when you start a BG game in Exult and you should see what im getting at

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:16 pm

bottom line is the current, top is mine

and yeah, theyre not paperdoll graphics.. sorry for the confusion if thats what you were confused about ^^;

Post by **marzo** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:22 pm

The faces look pretty good, but they use colors not in the U7 palette. When dithered back to the palette, result is rather ugly... I suppose manual dithering will might work, though.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:31 am

hmm.... give me an example of the u7 pallette that they would use and like i said, ill gladly do it

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:37 am

(er... a screenshot of the appopriate pallette line taken from Exult Studio would sufficie... I simply have no idea which one it would use ^^; )

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:02 am

and.. of course.... there's already the more difficult option of increasing the number of colors that could be displayed to match that of the SI faces..

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:18 am

uh... or.... (and this is most likely)... we forget I ever did it and i focus on paperdoll stuff instead, as I obviously suck at the faces stuff ^^;

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 3:10 am

the oil flask/flaming oil

modled on a paperdoll that also has my leather collar (always more economical to reuse old images

)

i figured it would be thrown in a way similar to a sling or bola, hence the rope (which would probably be wet to keep it from catching on fire).. i think it works well

male, and female

feedback/criticism open and welcome as always.. lol..

Post by **marzo** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:24 am

Here is the full palette:

[img\http://www.geocities.com/mg_rpg_online/U7Palette.png[/img]

The red color at the end is the transparent color.

Post by **marzo** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:25 am

Ugh... *here* is the image:

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:08 am

thanks... ill see what i can do with it

and if you accidentally mess up the image tags again dont worry... i know how to get to them regardless

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:31 am

pallette probably isnt in the right order, but how's that?

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:34 am

and the comparison shot

Post by **Dominus** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:38 am

I'm not quite sure what you intend to change with the faces apart from clipping parts of their hair. And why the need is there to make the faces bigger at all.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:37 am

its not necessarily making them bigger, its making them clearer... and a lot less ugly

it might not seem like a big thing to you... but anyone like me that deals closely with pixel art couldnt play using the portraits in their current state...know I cant at least.... they're quite glaringly hideous..

i know the change doesnt seem great.. and it sure isnt... but its a definite polishing step...

like i said before, im not even boting with any faces again in any form... i may be good at DRAWING faces, but PIXELING em seems beyond me

and yes... i know it really seems like im just being anal about it.... maybe I am.. maybe not... but i do know that ive been following the whole exult project long enough to care how things evolve with it

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:43 am

and by "play using the portraits in their current state" i quite simply mean just these that were added so that the multiracial avatars could be used in BG

Post by **Dominus** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:22 am

ok, I see your reasoning now.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:35 am

sorry if i went a bit overboard in explaining tho.. i can get like that

almost been banned several times from the official UO boards for my temper... lol..

Sissy Knox- not logged in :( · Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:30 pm

Hey- if you use Paint Shop Pro and still need the right palette, I have it. It has always worked for me when I did my paperdoll art.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:32 pm

yes.. i do.. i use it solely XD

Sissy Knox- not logged in :( · Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:20 pm

Okay! Well, I made a zip and posted it on my webpage, if you want to download it.

http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/xe ... 4/zip.html

There's nothing else on the webpage, so I added a picture and a ginchy background to jazz it up a bit. Simply download the zip and load the palette into any picture you need compatible with the Ultima VII palette.

Everything should be in order- it has always worked for me with my ipack work, though I had to fix it twice for some reason (hence the filename- ultimafix2.pal).

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:04 am

ARGH! ULTIMA 7 SNES!

thank you.. a lot... thats gonna help out a lot if i end up tyring to do any more faces

heck.. should help a lot with other stuff too.. lol... good to see another PSP user

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:16 am

there.. with the palette in order (thanks again! ^^)

and i jsut realized i never made frames for the weapons on your belt/bck (As needed).. the musket is easy enough to do so i wont bother with that.. but gonna have to draw a belt frame for the oil flask sometime today

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:45 am

there... done lazily but well enough

lines up the same as a pouch would

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:57 am

and another consistancy one while im still working on the throwing axe

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:02 am

and i jsut now realized what i did on that other post... T.T;

trevor · Post by **trevor** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:58 am

great work! really great

Skutarth · Post by **Skutarth** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:59 pm

Wait.... Doesn't SI have the same pallette as BG? If so, why does the fourth one look so bland on the top compared to the bottom?