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New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 5:15 pm
by Crysta the Elf
This thread will start off small, but it will build up over time :P

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wasnt satisfied with the current musket graphic... looked a bit soft for U7.. soo... tada :P

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Male sprite

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Female sprite

please note that the hand piece is there to show it extended around the musket... if thats not possible jsut say so and i can change them some :P

more will be added when I finish them... i'm going to focus on the ones that just dont seem right to me.. and if anything I post looks good enough, use it.. i dont mind :P

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 6:35 pm
by Sissy Knox- not logged in :(
It looks like a real bad-ass musket...:)

Making paperdoll gfx is hard, tedious work. First, there's the drawing. Then comes the coordinate wrangling which always seems endless. I tried my hand at it and might take it up again in the future (it's going to be a very boring summer, I can just feel it). I like making alternate outfits (not just armor and weapons). It's a lot of work, but very rewarding to see your stuff in the game!

Another plus side is, that it improved my own kisekae art. Whenever I was working on a set, I'd think..."Well, at least it's not those damned Ultima VII paperdolls!" and suddenly, the project would seem that much easier...

I really like what you did with Trellek's gump, too. The shading is lovely.

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 1:57 am
by Crysta the Elf
well thank you :)

like ive said before, in other topics, im no programmer.. and I barely understand Exult Studio... id never be able to get the sprites into the program on my own.. so i figured whatever i get done i should post here... this is the place where the masters of the program dwell, after all :P

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 5:31 am
by Crysta the Elf
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from left to right by row:

Male Leather Collar, Gorget, and Magical Gorget

Female Leather Collar, Gorget, and Magic Gorget

BG Fellowship Medallion, and the four types of Gold Lockets

yes, I know the last row is all just recolors, but its recolors for the sake of consistancy :P

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:19 pm
by Gruck, curiousis!
Looking good!

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 8:35 pm
by Gradilla Dragon
Are the hands graphics really necesary for the musket?

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 10:21 pm
by Crysta the Elf
i really dont know.... just thought it looked good :P

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 11:13 pm
by Crysta the Elf
i mean.. if you htink it doesnt, i can get rid of em

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 11:35 pm
by wjp
They'll cause a problem when wearing gloves/gauntlets.

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 1:04 am
by Crysta the Elf
ooooo... didnt think of that at all... guess i WILL change it then.. lol

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 2:19 pm
by Crysta the Elf
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Male and Female

fixed em like I said I would :P

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 11:16 pm
by The Viking
So where do we download these and how do we put them into the game?

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 2:58 am
by Dominus
download: right click on the image and save image as.
How to put in the game: someone of the Exult team (preferably wjp) has to add them to the data files and point exult to them. When this is done, you need to download a new Exult snapshot.

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 3:42 am
by Crysta the Elf
like he said.....

if i had the knowhow to do it I would myself.. definitely...

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 10:42 am
by Crysta the Elf
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obviously not a paperdoll sprite, but insead an in-game sprite for the magic cloak in the SI paperdoll graphics that, as far as ive seen, is not only unused but doesnt have a normal in-game equivalent :P

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 2:45 pm
by Crysta the Elf
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next!

various rings!

in order:
enchanted ethereal ring
normal ethereal ring
blue (crystal) ring
gold ring

on teh enchanted one, the blue and green should cycle (like the non-paperdoll version)... normal ethereal should only have the blue cycle

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 3:13 pm
by Crysta the Elf
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HOLY NIGHT OF THE LIVING RECOLOR.. lol

yeah.. not impressive.. or interesting.. just did this for consistancy with the Black Gate in-game sprite for swamp boots... basically its add this, or replace the in-game graphic with the greenish ones from Serpent Isle.... which, honestly, is what id suggest.. they look cooler :P

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 3:16 pm
by Crysta the Elf
oh.. and i did these to hold off on teh next three till i feel a bit better (sick)...

the throwing axe, cadellite helm, and oil flask :P

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 5:08 pm
by Crysta the Elf
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and now i gotta give a big "oops".... I forgot Rowena's wedding ring before... here it is :P

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:36 am
by Crysta the Elf
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yet another "no biggie" one.. im still sick but prolly gonna work on the oil flask tonight at least :P

should be obvious... decided to do this just because the ones that are still in exult from way back when (when they were added) are a bit.... dated now... considering how far the client has progressed.... please realized that these are most likely even temporary for me, sitting there until ive drawn completely new ones

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:38 am
by Crysta the Elf
er.. and i dont know the color limitations on the faces.. like at all.. so if they need to be less to be useable, tell me, I know darn well how to touch them down without loosing quality :)

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:08 pm
by SB-X
What is the last one? I can't tell the difference.

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:46 pm
by Crysta the Elf
if you mean the set of faces, its for BG :P

try scrolling through the avatar faces available when you start a BG game in Exult and you should see what im getting at :P

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:16 pm
by Crysta the Elf
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bottom line is the current, top is mine

and yeah, theyre not paperdoll graphics.. sorry for the confusion if thats what you were confused about ^^;

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:22 pm
by marzo
The faces look pretty good, but they use colors not in the U7 palette. When dithered back to the palette, result is rather ugly... I suppose manual dithering will might work, though.

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:31 am
by Crysta the Elf
hmm.... give me an example of the u7 pallette that they would use and like i said, ill gladly do it

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:37 am
by Crysta the Elf
(er... a screenshot of the appopriate pallette line taken from Exult Studio would sufficie... I simply have no idea which one it would use ^^; )

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:02 am
by Crysta the Elf
and.. of course.... there's already the more difficult option of increasing the number of colors that could be displayed to match that of the SI faces..

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:18 am
by Crysta the Elf
uh... or.... (and this is most likely)... we forget I ever did it and i focus on paperdoll stuff instead, as I obviously suck at the faces stuff ^^;

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 3:10 am
by Crysta the Elf
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the oil flask/flaming oil

modled on a paperdoll that also has my leather collar (always more economical to reuse old images :P)

i figured it would be thrown in a way similar to a sling or bola, hence the rope (which would probably be wet to keep it from catching on fire).. i think it works well :)

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male, and female :P

feedback/criticism open and welcome as always.. lol..

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:24 am
by marzo
Here is the full palette:

[img\http://www.geocities.com/mg_rpg_online/U7Palette.png[/img]

The red color at the end is the transparent color.

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:25 am
by marzo
Ugh... *here* is the image:
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Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:08 am
by Crysta the Elf
thanks... ill see what i can do with it :)

and if you accidentally mess up the image tags again dont worry... i know how to get to them regardless :P

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:31 am
by Crysta the Elf
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pallette probably isnt in the right order, but how's that?

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:34 am
by Crysta the Elf
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and the comparison shot

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:38 am
by Dominus
I'm not quite sure what you intend to change with the faces apart from clipping parts of their hair. And why the need is there to make the faces bigger at all.

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:37 am
by Crysta the Elf
its not necessarily making them bigger, its making them clearer... and a lot less ugly

it might not seem like a big thing to you... but anyone like me that deals closely with pixel art couldnt play using the portraits in their current state...know I cant at least.... they're quite glaringly hideous..

i know the change doesnt seem great.. and it sure isnt... but its a definite polishing step...

like i said before, im not even boting with any faces again in any form... i may be good at DRAWING faces, but PIXELING em seems beyond me


and yes... i know it really seems like im just being anal about it.... maybe I am.. maybe not... but i do know that ive been following the whole exult project long enough to care how things evolve with it

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:43 am
by Crysta the Elf
and by "play using the portraits in their current state" i quite simply mean just these that were added so that the multiracial avatars could be used in BG

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:22 am
by Dominus
ok, I see your reasoning now.

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:35 am
by Crysta the Elf
sorry if i went a bit overboard in explaining tho.. i can get like that :P

almost been banned several times from the official UO boards for my temper... lol..

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:30 pm
by Sissy Knox- not logged in :(
Hey- if you use Paint Shop Pro and still need the right palette, I have it. It has always worked for me when I did my paperdoll art.

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:32 pm
by Crysta the Elf
yes.. i do.. i use it solely XD

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:20 pm
by Sissy Knox- not logged in :(
Okay! Well, I made a zip and posted it on my webpage, if you want to download it.

http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/xe ... 4/zip.html

There's nothing else on the webpage, so I added a picture and a ginchy background to jazz it up a bit. Simply download the zip and load the palette into any picture you need compatible with the Ultima VII palette.

Everything should be in order- it has always worked for me with my ipack work, though I had to fix it twice for some reason (hence the filename- ultimafix2.pal).

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:04 am
by Crysta the Elf
ARGH! ULTIMA 7 SNES!

:P

thank you.. a lot... thats gonna help out a lot if i end up tyring to do any more faces :)

heck.. should help a lot with other stuff too.. lol... good to see another PSP user :P

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:16 am
by Crysta the Elf
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there.. with the palette in order (thanks again! ^^)

and i jsut realized i never made frames for the weapons on your belt/bck (As needed).. the musket is easy enough to do so i wont bother with that.. but gonna have to draw a belt frame for the oil flask sometime today :P

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:45 am
by Crysta the Elf
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there... done lazily but well enough :P

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lines up the same as a pouch would

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:57 am
by Crysta the Elf
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and another consistancy one while im still working on the throwing axe :P

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:02 am
by Crysta the Elf
Image and i jsut now realized what i did on that other post... T.T;

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:58 am
by trevor
great work! really great :)

Re: New Paperdoll Graphics

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:59 pm
by Skutarth
Wait.... Doesn't SI have the same pallette as BG? If so, why does the fourth one look so bland on the top compared to the bottom?
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