Constant random freezes...

[NecroViolator]

I dont know where to post this annoying problem...

I can start the game (U7 BG) watch Iolo talk to a present then teleport into game (as Avatar) and walk a few moments...

Sometimes I can play min 10 sec to max 1 to 2 minutes then freeze...
The music is still playing, strangely enough...

Ive given up playing for now, its way to annoying to "terminate" Exult every freeze...

I have a :
Dual Xeon, Windows 7 64bits, 6Gig, X-Fi with all the latest drivers...

Here is what Windows says :

Description:
A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: AppHangB1
Application Name: Exult.exe
Application Version: 1.4.0.5
Application Timestamp: 4cabb4ea
Hang Signature: 21d7
Hang Type: 0
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Hang Signature 1: 21d769f4125e3d009b73fe0caf15c073
Additional Hang Signature 2: d6ff
Additional Hang Signature 3: d6ff6e3cbbf2a3ea992b4bffff4be883
Additional Hang Signature 4: 21d7
Additional Hang Signature 5: 21d769f4125e3d009b73fe0caf15c073
Additional Hang Signature 6: d6ff
Additional Hang Signature 7: d6ff6e3cbbf2a3ea992b4bffff4be883

Hope this helps some...

[Gruck]

This must be a fairly recent bug. I played a month ago, and had almost no problems.

[NecroViolator]

Oman ...

I can use 1.2 perfectly... I used the 1.4 older version it NEVER started...
So when I got this newer 1.4 everything started great...

Now just freezes randomly...

I guess I will have to wait for a fix...


Thanks...

[Sergorn]

I replayed Ultima VII a couple of weeks a go (with what was the latest windows binary at that point) and I had a similar issue: random freezes and crashes.

It didn't happen that fast though, so I could play anything from 10 minutes to a couple of hours before I got any crash but this was weird.

Oddly enough, no such issue with Serpent Isle though.

-Sergorn

[NecroViolator]

Ahh...OK...

I wanted to play U7 all the way through and then play SI after so I get the whole picture of the games together...

Sad, I will either wait for a better release or try play SI...

Thanks...

[Sergorn]

Yeah well you can always play with version 1.2 it is much more stable than the 1.4 snapshots

[wjp]

I've played for quite some time now, but didn't encounter any freezes.

Is there any useful info in stdout.txt/stderr.txt for those in Windows? Could you try without audio, to see if that's responsible?

[NecroViolator]

Sad to say I dont see any stdout.txt or stderr.txt...

I can give it a try without the Sound Files I have...
I do use the Key Ring Mod... Wanted to use it because there is so many keys...he he...

[NecroViolator]

Tried without sound...

Works a bit longer but still freezes...
Does this have to do with the HD sleeping ???

I turned the music On/Off and there was a difference in that the game worked better without Music...

But still freezes... ...

Might try OpenGL...

[Dominus]

See http://exult.info/faq.php#bug_report as to where the stdout files are found. Maybe nuke that exult.cfg at that location as well and reinstall exult. Copy past the content of the std files anyway.

Do not try out the opengl version, it will not work better, most likely will introduce much more problems.

[NecroViolator]

It is a fresh install... Just installed it, but will delete the Config just in case...

Found the files...
stderr.txt :::

Warning, trailing slash in path: "\"
Warning, trailing slash in path: "\"
_________________________________________________

stdout.txt :::

Exult version 1.4.05svn
Built at: Oct 6 2010 10:22:43
Compile-time options: USE_FMOPL_MIDI, USE_MT32EMU_MIDI, USE_EXULTSTUDIO, HAVE_ZIP_SUPPORT, HAVE_OPENGL
Compiler: gcc, version: 4.2.1-dw2 (mingw32-2)

Platform: Windows 7 Version 6.1 Build 7600
Exult path settings:
Data : data
Digital music : data\music

Looking for 'blackgate' at 'E:\Games\Ultima7'... found game with identity 'FORGE'
Looking for 'serpentisle' at 'E:\Games\Serpent'... found game with identity 'SILVER SEED'
Looking for 'forgeofvirtue' at './forgeofvirtue'... but it wasn't there.
Looking for 'silverseed' at './silverseed'... but it wasn't there.
Black Gate : not found (\.)
Forge of Virtue : found
exult_bg.flx : found
Serpent Isle : not found (\.)
Silver Seed : found
exult_si.flx : found
Checking rendering support
Windowed 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
640x480 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
720x480 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
800x600 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
1024x768 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
1152x864 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
1280x720 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
1280x768 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
1280x800 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
1280x960 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
1280x1024 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
1360x768 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
1600x900 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
1600x1024 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
1600x1200 8 bpp ok 16 bpp ok 32 bpp ok
Creating AudioMixer...
Audio opened using format: 22050 Hz 2 Channels
Timbers Precached: On play only
OGG Vorbis Digital Music: Disabled
Trying: `Windows'
1 Midi Devices Detected
Listing midi devices:
-1: Microsoft MIDI Mapper
0: Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth
Using device -1: Microsoft MIDI Mapper
Success!
Midi Output: Enabled
Starting a BLACK GATE game
Game path settings:
Static : E:\Games\Ultima7\static
Gamedat : C:\Users\NecroViolator\AppData\Local\Exult\blackgate\gamedat
Savegame: C:\Users\NecroViolator\AppData\Local\Exult\blackgate
Patch : E:\Games\Ultima7\patch

Opening digital SFX's file: "/jmsfx.flx"
Starting a BLACK GATE game with the 'Keyring' modification.
Game path settings:
Static : E:\Games\Ultima7\static
Gamedat : C:\Users\NecroViolator\AppData\Local\Exult\blackgate\mods\Keyring\gamedat
Savegame: C:\Users\NecroViolator\AppData\Local\Exult\blackgate\mods\Keyring\saves
Patch : E:\Games\Ultima7\mods\Keyring\data

Opening digital SFX's file: "/jmsfx.flx"
Resetting AudioMixer...
played intro
Gamedat identity FORGE
Reading usecode file.
Support for SI Paperdolls is enabled.
Support for SI Multiracial Avatars is enabled.
Loading /exult_bg.flx...
Loading default keybindings
Loading patch keybindings

Opened socket for Exult Server on port 50013
Cheats enabled.
(x,y) rel. to gump is (7, 130)
Finding path to schedule for sage
Finding path to schedule for peasant
(x,y) rel. to gump is (104, 80)
(x,y) rel. to gump is (110, 57)
(x,y) rel. to gump is (112, 66)
(x,y) rel. to gump is (93, 93)
(x,y) rel. to gump is (121, 62)
(x,y) rel. to gump is (56, 9)
(x,y) rel. to gump is (85, 60)
(x,y) rel. to gump is (77, 21)
(x,y) rel. to gump is (76, 22)
(x,y) rel. to gump is (77, 22)
(x,y) rel. to gump is (49, 108)
Current weather is 0; setting 6
Cloud: start_time = 299588
Cloud: start_time = 301231
Cloud: start_time = 303599
Cloud: start_time = 297456
Cloud: start_time = 299497


This is whats in them... Hopefully it will shed some light on the problem...

[wjp]

Hm, nothing really stands out unfortunately. Are that their contents directly after a freeze/crash?

[Dominus]

Do you have the problems with a plain vanilla game as well? I'm asking because I see that you are playing a game with the keyring mod.

[NecroViolator]

I could remove the MOD and try without it...

Thanks...

[Dominus]

You don't need to remove it, just start a game without clicking and choosing this mod.

[Dominus]

I cannot reproduce the problem with a fresh Exult SVN on Windows 7 x64. It is running in a VM though.

[Dominus]

another idea, since I discovered this in another bug report: Does this happen with new games as well?
And how big are your savegames? Do you have really big savegames? Really big is everything bigger than 500KB.