Crown Jewel & Flags

[aasmith]

Firstly--thank you all for putting this whole project together.

I'm having a very hard time getting certain flags to trip in Black Gate (Exult 1.2). I remember this was a problem with the original as well. Specifically, after the murder in Minoc, Owen tells you that the Crown Jewel went to Paws. But no one in Paws has any further leads. I know it's not necessary to solving the game, but it's very frustrating.

Has anybody had problems with this before? Does anybody have a list of global flags, and know if I might just be able to flip one myself and play on?

Thanks,
Adam

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I seem to recall there only being one person in Paws who gets a conversation option for the Crown Jewel; I think it's the innkeeper. I remember this being a rather annoying step in the process since there's no shipwright or dockmaster or anything in Paws, and you can't ask anyone else in town about it at all, so if you miss that one NPC you're lost. Not to insult you, but just to double check, are you sure you tried every NPC in Paws?

[Shaun]

The Elizabeth and Abraham thread dead ends at the Meditation Retreat. If memory serves, Feridwyn will answer the question about Elizabeth and Abraham. I don't remember hearing about the Crown Jewel again after Minoc.

[aasmith]

I'll make sure I check everyone--it's always possible, since the NPCs seem to slip around so much.

Regardless of whether this is a bug or just my own stupidity...does anybody actually have a list of the flags? I'm still very curious about that.

Thanks.

[Lathlas]

I can't help with the flags unfortunately, but you should really be using the latest 1.4x snapshot instead of 1.2

[Malignant Manor]

I don't think anyone in Paws has a dialog for Crown Jewel. I think it was meant to say New Magincia or is a red herring.

Finster - Britain (x)
Duncan - Buccaneer's Den (x)
Christopher - Trinsic (x)
Frederico - Minoc (x)
Tania - Minoc (x)
Alagner - New Magincia (x)
Lord British - Britain ( )
the Avatar - ( )

[Dominus]

I *think* that if you die and brought back in Paws the Fellowship guy who heals you might have something to say. I might confuse this with SI and the amulet thingy

[Malignant Manor]

He mentions Elizabeth and Abraham bringing you to him and where they were traveling to and/or from. There's nothing about the Crown Jewel. (It's function 0x8D5.)

[aasmith]

1.4.x is listed as unstable. I assumed that 1.2 would be better.

(With regard to the plotline, I think I figured it out. I never had the E&A thread running, since I never visited the Fellowship Hall in Trinsic. And I think I conflated E&A with the Crown Jewel in my memory, from when I played U7 in high school.)

Thanks all.

[marzo]

Hrm. I am thinking that maybe we should start listing 1.2 as "Official - v1.2 (outdated, mostly unsupported)", and maybe list 1.4.x as "Exult 1.4.x Snapshots (Sometimes unstable)". The "unstable" bit in the 1.4.x means solely that every once in a while, an update may come that causes the game to crash or prevent successful completion of the game; nevertheless, this new bug may just as well be fixed in the next revision.

[dag]

Thing is:

Many people tend to think that there is a stable release (let's call it, uhh, "1.2") that supports all features and is stable as a rock.

And they tend to think that 1.4 is kind of an experimental branch, and as such, not "really supported".

All of us studying this forum frequently may have an idea of the way all this is going on. But there are *lots* of people out there who are just looking for a "stable" and/or a "experimental" release.

As I experienced so far, the 1.4-branch is much more stable and reliable and non-plot-stopping than the 1.2 ever was, so maybe we should do a feature freeze in 1.4? And make a new branch, call it "1.5"?

Maybe I am completely wrong, so I'm asking: what do you think about this?

[dag]

Oh, I'm sorry for hijacking this thread, I'll open another one. Please ignore my post above here in this thread. I should have known better.

@Editors: Feel free to delete it

[Malignant Manor]

One of the NPCs (I think Owen) did mention Paws as a destination of Crown Jewel so I wouldn't call it a mistake on your memory.