New Paperdoll Graphics II

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:43 am

like he said.. i draw. i post.. then he inserts when he can

im sure he'll say when the next batch is in.. lol

Post by **Dominus** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:56 am

Artaxerxes: Don't you dare!!!

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:45 am

go for it At.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:15 am

just a minor update.... rest of the male clothes should be done soon.. but im probably going to do a fellowship staff design tonight

i was thinking about it.. and i realized that while the current one IS really good, its not all that accurate.. and with a bit of searching i was able to fish up the resource material i needed.. soooo.... yeah :p

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:31 pm

Angles. Suck.

Drew the staff tip then turned it. thats the best it could possible be.. lol... at least its not that bad.

Basically, the tip of the staff is supposed to be the Fellowship symbol of the T, U, and W for their beliefs system.. when you know its what youre looking for its a lot easier to see it on the in-game sprites. ^_^

Put in the non-turned tip for further reference for no particular reason.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:45 am

example, and back sprite... lines up the same as the current one

and yeah, it looks bad, but it really isnt possible to do much better

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:57 pm

i noticed today that shield backs arent working right in exult.. and, moreso, are largely unfinished even in the SI graphics, which is odd

therefore...

from left to right:

wooden shield (already in the SI graphics but not being used in BG or SI for some reason..), SI spiked shield (needed the notch marks which were wooden sheild-native removed), buckler/black shield (same, as well as recolor), my BG spiked shield back reedited for the notch removal mentioned above, and the SI door shield, which for some reason wasnt even started in the SI graphic files

now. like i said, aside from the BG spiked shield which WJP fixed, all shields in BG AND SI are using the heater back (and the back fits all of the heater shape shields well without recoloring.. lol), even though the round back is in memory (wooden shield at least), so these will need to be put in for both BG and SI as maked (aside from the buckler, which should be in both)

Vasculio294 · Post by **Vasculio294** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:42 pm

Wow thats good stuff i'm seeing in this thread! You think that you guys can possibly bring over the Death Scythe to Serpents Isle?

Beldavid · Post by **Beldavid** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:26 am

Is there ANY way to make a new Spark paperdoll, I mean I'm sure Spark is a buff kid but that is ridiculous.

Post by **Dominus** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:50 am

*I* think the best way to handle Spark would be to turn off SI paperdolls for him. For the reasons why it is kind of hard (if not impossible) to make a new paperdoll for him - search the forum...

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:09 am

actually, it would be a lot of work.. but id be more than willing to work on it

all i need to do is email someone about getting a version of their smaller spark paperdoll with arms and torso seperate and i could probably have the art for it done in a few months

(id prefer to take my time with it to make sure its all right

Crowley · Post by **Crowley** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:14 am

Great work! If I might make one request, please do the hawk (or was that a falcon?). The current paperdoll art for it looks like a fowl.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:17 am

i.. dont think im even going to try on the hawk.. ^_^;;

i dont think id be able to do well enough with it to justify trying.. especially since what we have is quite decent already..

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:31 am

male hoods... jsut needed a bit of tweaking like I thought

yhevhe · Post by **yhevhe** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:27 pm

But there isn't already a Spark paperdoll were he's not that buff? It's in a not so old thread in the phorum.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:34 pm

yes, that was the one i was talking about

but, i need a version where the arms, torso, and head are seperate.. and has the other two sets of arms... i need em that way to be able to do the clothes

Vasculio294 · Post by **Vasculio294** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:18 pm

Ahhh man! So the Death Scythe is out of the question!?

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:22 pm

no... i just wanna finish the last few clothing pieces before i start on anything that isnt exactly needed

Post by **marzo** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:18 pm

To Vasculio: besides Crysta's answer, I think that you have asked for this in the wrong thread. Adding the Death Scythe in SI means more than making paperdolls for it...

Vasculio294 · Post by **Vasculio294** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:41 pm

If shouldn't be too difficult? Copy the default paperdoll scythe from SI recolor it Blue. Just copy the little scythe from Black Gate over along with the stats and all. I'm sure one of you can pull it off!

cyberfugue · Post by **cyberfugue** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 3:07 pm

Crysta, I just have to say that you rock.

Vasculio294 · Post by **Vasculio294** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 10:20 pm

I agree! Crysta has skill!

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:15 am

nahhh.. ive just been lucky so far.. heh......

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:24 pm

just realized the female avatar costume would have to be like this due to the multiracial avatars... its this or thre seperate versions.. one for each skin color.. lol

Vasculio294 · Post by **Vasculio294** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:34 pm

If i was skill as Crysta!

I'd fix the female paperdolls. I'd take away the scary freakish muscles, especially in the legs and give them better hair. Then i fix the faces.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:37 pm

i like the muscles on them.. shows off how strong they are

Vasculio294 · Post by **Vasculio294** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:18 pm

How do you post pictures?

Vasculio294 · Post by **Vasculio294** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:48 pm

Nevermind! I have a link from my yahoo photo album

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/vasculio/ ... ce&.src=ph

Post by **artaxerxes** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:03 am

Dominus wrote:
>
> *I* think the best way to handle Spark would be to turn off
> SI paperdolls for him.

That's a pretty bold statement, but probably the safest move.
The other option I like is to scale down via the engine. When an item is dropped on Spark, there is a 35% size reduction all around. This way, there is no issues with hotspots and all.

Artaxerxes

yhevhe · Post by **yhevhe** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:25 am

Just a question... is there a way to make a character's paperdoll change when triggered by something (let's say, a level up)? So to change a not buff paperdoll to a buff one when the character has enough strenght?

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:35 am

actually.. im gonna go with what Dom said too, at least until i can get the resized art done... fact is... would have had to be done eventually ANYWAY to get Trellek working... so why not set it up now?

ah! a BETTER idea! know that smaller spark paperdoll? why dont i resprite it so it has his proper clothes on, then add in the lines form teh normal BG paperdoll.. and we use that instead when SI ones are active? so it retains teh same look.. just less interactivity

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:44 am

er.. and ill make sure the original artist OKs the use of it too.. dont worry, im not THAT stupid

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:06 am

er.. can someone get into contact with Berty Zhang for me? i cant get 'is email to work...

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:22 pm

the male shirt, as well as various updates to several pieces

just the pants left now...

nex666 · Post by **nex666** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:53 pm

The shirt looks great

Maybe take out a bit of the contrast on the sleeves though

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:34 am

better?

dag · Post by **dag** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:28 am

this rocks, and it rocks a lot.
crysta, your art is astonishing. you really got it; i am looking forward to seeing these pics in the next stable release!

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BC · Post by BC » Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:40 pm

I think that if new art is done, armor for Spark it should look too big for him. For instance chain mail should hang down to his knees. He is wearing the same size armor as everyone else.

Orioneth · Post by **Orioneth** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:15 am

I never thought Jaana's hawk would be held, more that it would fly around Jaana or sit on her arm. Would it be possible for its graphic (if you ever do it) to reflect that? Would that change your stance on doing the hawk?

Anyway, amazing work!

Post by **Dominus** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:30 am

I think that if new art is done, armor for Spark it should look too big for him. For instance chain mail should hang down to his knees. He is wearing the same size armor as everyone else.

I really don't get it why people are SO fixated on getting Spark done more realistic. We already have armor fitting tight on males and females (one size fits all), why not do the same for Spark?

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:10 am

i can tell you that if i do armor for him im gonna say to heck with realistic and make it fit him ^_^;

and as to the hawk.. i still dunno...

BC · Post by BC » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:15 am

Personally I just like the extra detail, its not so much about realism. A smaller Spark with the normal armor would be a big improvement. But oversized armor would be unique and feel less generic in my opinion. His sprites are so small compared to other NPCs that it seems appropriate.

Its like the difference between NPC sprites in Blackgate and SI. SI's variety adds a lot to the game atmosphere.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:30 am

well I still think it should just fit him xP

Vasculio294 · Post by **Vasculio294** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:56 am

The green shirt is awsome!

Paulon · Post by **Paulon** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:38 am

I figure magical armor should fit Spark just fine. It should be magical 'One Size Fits All' kind of stuff shouldn't it?

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:04 pm

yeah.. but im sayin ALL armors

nex666 · Post by **nex666** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:18 pm

Hehe, yes Crysta that does look better

They're looking great, can't wait till your next set. This is just about the only thing i look at in these forums anymore.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:37 am

well.. my "next set" would be the last.. the pants... guess im stallin on purpose cause as soon as they're done ill have nothin left to do

Natreg · Post by **Natreg** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:58 am

well, you could do some companions costumes (like the Avatar costume in BG, so the companions look like their paperdolls and sprites in the original Ultima VII

Timo Takalo · Post by **Timo Takalo** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:55 pm

*remembers Iolo's monk robe* I don't think that would work all that well.