Question about curing Cantra

Post by **Dominus** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:21 pm

and thinking about it, it doesn't make sense.
The automatons are static figues, you can equip them, but they are just puppets. Making them level up would make them sentient...

Achile · Post by **Achile** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:25 pm

Well make them sentient being. They have right to live, they are NPC who takes place of Iolo, Sham and Dupré. Petra have sentiment.

Maybe I watch to much sci-fi, sorry

Withstand the Fury Dragon · Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:27 pm

Sorry for my delay in posting the new stuff to Aiera. Due to some unfortunate circumstances, I wound up being quite unexpectedly away from home until July 1.

It was rather unfortunate too, since I hadn't packed additional clothes. I am now very sick of a shirt I had previously loved, having worn it three days straight. Sleeping on floors also added a measure of "suck" to the end of the week.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 3:18 am

ok.. finally tried it

unfortunately, your fix for dropping the usecode container didnt work.. now it just waits until you make any move after casting the spell to drop it, and instead of dropping it full, it drops it and then drops every egg from inside it :\

aside from that everything seems to be working perfectly

another suggestion tho... have the basement of the tower get cleaned up to look like the other towers as well as teh rest of the tower when the gobbies are dead

Post by **Dominus** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:12 am

Well make them sentient being.

they are still man made. To have them advance in abilities you wouldn't train them but upgrade them and there is no automaton upgrader in the game

Maybe I watch to much sci-fi, sorry

yup

Post by **marzo** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:18 am

Thanks for the report. Ugh. Little logic flaw involved... fixed now.

bobby · Post by **bobby** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:29 am

The updated download at Aiera does not work

I think someone does not want Cantra to be cured...

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:32 am

it works if you replace the '/' before 'zip' with a '.' ;P

just copy the address and make the change.. should read '.zip' instead of '/zip'

bobby · Post by **bobby** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:42 am

Well, replacing the / with a . was the first thing i tried. Unfortunately IE produced only an error-message.
After your message I tried a download manager, and behold! - it worked.

Thanx!

B.

Withstand the Fury Dragon · Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:22 am

Sorry about the typo. Should work without manager assistance now.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:40 am

good to hear ^^;

Crowley · Post by **Crowley** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 12:19 pm

Could anything be done about 'smuggling' your party members into the Dream Realm using Serpent Bond? Or is that fixed already in Exult?

Post by **Dominus** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 12:40 pm

you aren't supposed to take your party members, so no need for fixing it.

Edit: I'm an ass. Sorry, totally misunderstood your message.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 12:42 pm

oh wow.. never even KNEW about that one

nope, it still works... soon as serpent bond wears off your companions show up... wow.. that is one hell of a plot hole

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 12:42 pm

at elast they dont lose their belongings when going back from the dream realm.. lol

SB-X · Post by **SB-X** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 12:59 pm

That's the major use of the cheat.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:12 pm

ohhhh....

maybe make the serpent bond spell fizzle when near Gorlab Swamp?or maybe... anywhere where its not cold? (i mean it IS a "snow" serpent, after all:P)

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:19 pm

wait.. forget i said that.. i got snow serpent and serpent bond mixed up.. lol...

Post by **marzo** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 2:26 pm

My initial reaction about Gorlab Swamp was that it would be difficult to fix. How I was wrong... Now, when you wake up in the Dream World, you are in your normal shape and no companions in sight. I waited quite a bit, and they didn't return; but immediatelly when I returned to the normal world, they were back in the party, as expected.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 2:55 pm

so.. you fixed it?

Post by **marzo** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 3:02 pm

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 3:09 pm

sweet... what about the dried fish thing i mentioned earlier in this thread?

(sorry.. was just thinkin about it right now.. lol)

Post by **marzo** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:35 pm

I had forgotten about it. I have fixed it now.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:46 pm

ah.. hehe.... sorry.. guess Dom is right about the stuff gettin lost in threads.. lol..

Vasculio294 · Post by **Vasculio294** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 10:12 pm

lol i use that trick all the time. The Serpent Bond while going into the swamp. Its like heaven lol.

I don't consider it cheating, since its a developer flaw.

Too bad no-one ever discovered how to get to Cat Isle.

My favorite place is Erstam's Retreat. Hehe...

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:18 am

you can get to claw by way of a teleporter hidden behind a tree in the garden next to the main council building in Monitor... you need to stack some crates to reach the right height to get it to work

Vasculio294 · Post by **Vasculio294** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:21 pm

Can you please post screen shot? Plz I really wanna see this?

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:48 pm

my mistake.. its actually in the park southwest of that one

stack three crates, just like in the shot, and walk up them

Vasculio294 · Post by **Vasculio294** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:51 pm

Thanks i'm going to try that out now!

Vasculio294 · Post by **Vasculio294** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:43 pm

Awsome! Its works! Its funny how you can enter the dream world from Cat Isle.

cyberfugue · Post by **cyberfugue** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:32 am

I have several other "fix" suggestions, that are really rather minor -- but I thought I would go ahead and mention them.

1) When asking for information about strange objects, the severed hand never comes up as an option (with Harnna (Monitor), Jendon (Fawn), or Bucia (Moonshade)) - as it did in the original game. Whether this is a bug in my savegame, or an overall issue, I don't know.

2) You gave the companions something to say after they are cured. How about doing the same for the companion who is kidnapped by Rotoluncia (after you free him)? As it is now, they act like there is nothing unusual as you ask them to re-join your party.

3) Also, this is even more minor - but I have noticed that whenever you leave Fawn, the guard at the gate tells you to behave yourself while you are there. I always thought he should say this when you enter Fawn instead.

As I said, very minor points.

Post by **marzo** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:51 am

Re: 1: It is an issue in your savegame, most likely. I compared the code with the original, and there is no reason why it shouldn't work. So I started Exult and tested; the options appear here normally.

Re: 2: That is a nice idea. I will have to see if it is doable, though.

Re: 3: I will check that.

Neutronium Dragon · Post by **Neutronium Dragon** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:47 am

I seem to recall that, when asking for information about strange objects, you could only get some of the subjects at once; you needed to clear some out of the way before others would take their place.

Neutronium Dragon

Achile · Post by **Achile** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:57 am

There is always 2 lutes for Iolo even with the patch.

Sight

For the least I can play without crashing because of the midi stuff.

Ethan · Post by **Ethan** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:59 am

Random patch question: What happened to companions getting upset at the Avatar stealing in BG? I clearly remember Iolo being like "Is that virtuous?" and then later trying to leave after I stole a bunch of stuff. Any ideas?

E

Post by **marzo** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:16 am

Re: stealing: http://exult.info/faq.php#not_yet_implemented

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:21 am

well then.. theres a big area taht should be worked on now that theres a stable release

eternal light · Post by **eternal light** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:06 pm

is there a way to make them join again after they leave?

Post by **marzo** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:10 pm

After some time (a lot of time, really), they will join again if you ask them.

Ethan · Post by **Ethan** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:26 pm

The stealing/killing thing was the most goddamn annoying feature, I'd suggest making it an option, when it is implemented.

Post by **drcode** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:27 am

I might take another look at "stealing" soon.

Neutronium Dragon · Post by **Neutronium Dragon** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:19 am

Your companions are virtuous, even if you're not. If you want to steal, don't do it while they're around.

The one issue that I had with it was that there were a number of things laying about that were flagged as stealing even when there was no good reason for them to be - like some groups of caltrops in dungeons.

Neutronium Dragon

yhevhe · Post by **yhevhe** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:25 am

They are the Dungeon Master's property.

Natreg · Post by **Natreg** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:18 am

What really annoyed me was that eating the food at the ships I bought was unvirtuous

Christophe · Post by **Christophe** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:55 pm

I seem to remember that all gold was free to take. Is that true ? The first thing I did in all BlackGate games were stealing the contribution box the the local fellowship branch and nobody ever complained.

Crysta the Elf · Post by **Crysta the Elf** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:04 pm

no.. gold was most certainly not free to take.. you jsut got lucky

yhevhe · Post by **yhevhe** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:31 pm

Sometimes I find the concept of "justice" in U7 to be a bit... harsh you know. Most of times it involves just killing =/ Sometimes I have hoped that there was a little more "human" way of handling all that...

Anderewrey · Post by **Anderewrey** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:50 pm

And what about to cure the insanity bug of Selina (Conversation loop) after her resurection in the City of order (Before/After the activation of the Wall of Light)

Can we be able to resurect her ?
If no - Remove the usecode to resurect her
If yes - She will be anger against the Avatar or want a "pardon"

Post by **marzo** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:17 pm

Hmmm. Maybe have her not be resurrectable after her death there. She seemed rather fanatical about Batlin, and you *did* kill her just moments before

cyberfugue · Post by **cyberfugue** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:35 am

Marzo - I've been playing SI with your patch installed, and I think I just found a bug. I did the Maze in the SS addon and exited and asked the companions to rejoin me. They all use the dialogue that you added for after they are resurrected and cured of the banes' influence.

If you want me to send you a savegame, I'll be glad to do so - just let me know.