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Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 8:51 am
by IgnitusDragonn
Remember that place with the stone canopy, and when you stood in the middle of it, lightning struck at you? or the house near Vesper(but further north into the woods right after the swamp) w/ the gargoyle?
I'm sure theres many others, I can't remember right now, but wouldn't it be nice if they were explained someway?

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 8:58 am
by SnowyThing
What's up with that giant 'X' marks the spot with the treasure? Then when you get there, I think the Guardian pops up and says. ".doG nagaP ehT mA I"
What is up with that?

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 9:13 am
by IgnitusDragonn
"I am the pagan god", there is a special key to open that chest, or something...the key in the fish at Serpent Hold opens either the treasure chest at the nearby island or else opens something to do with that X treasure...

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 9:16 am
by SnowyThing
But /why/ does he say that he's the Pagan God? Some little preview of U8? I'd rather see a hidden screenshot or graphic from it.
But why have an X if you're not going to bury the treasure?

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 9:21 am
by IgnitusDragonn
No shovels.
Pagan in this sense means, anti-virtue. The Fellowship was Pagan in that sense.

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 10:02 am
by SnowyThing
Weird. I had a dream that you could dig and stuff by using the shovel in U7... there ARE shovels... just like there are rakes and hoes.
Speaking of which... been to The Bath House yet? :p

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 10:35 am
by corbomite
Actually, the key inside that chest at the X opens the one at Serpent Hold, that is in the dining room. I only discovered this myself recently.

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:21 am
by Soule
I don't think the key in X is related to the treasures of Serpent's Hold.

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 12:02 pm
by IgnitusDragonn
It is, I think it opens a chest near about.

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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 3:04 pm
by SB-X
I don't remember a Gargoyle living solitarily near Vesper... but since it is near Vesper that just makes sense. I do remember the gargoyle Sin'Vral(sp?) who lived in the desert out there in Ultima V and Ultima VI (before Vesper was rebuilt), but I heard he was murdered.

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 3:54 pm
by Neutronium Dragon
It was closer to Minoc than Vesper; in the wooded areas just to the east of that city. There are a couple of hostile wingless gargoyles living there. (So it wouldn't be Sin'Vraal - he was definitely winged, and solitary to boot.)

Neutronium Dragon

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 4:54 pm
by IgnitusDragonn
Its one wingless, and its northeast of Minoc, any further and you would hit the mountain at the rim of the coast.

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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 7:05 pm
by corbomite
"I don't think the key in X is related to the treasures of Serpent's Hold."

Try it. I just used it to open the chest in the dining room at the Hold the other day. I could never find a key for this chest before, but that key does open it.

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 7:46 pm
by Neutronium Dragon
There were two of 'em in that cabin the times I visited...

Neutronium Dragon

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 10:14 pm
by Soule
I am sure to get the treasures of Serpent's Hold...
1. Get a key from body of a trout in the Hold.
2. Open a chest in the cave near the Hold using the trout key. You'll get another key.
3. Open the door with the treasures! (Magebane, Juggernaut Hammer, Glass Sword etc)

Do you ever have to use the key from 'X Marks the Spot'?

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:56 pm
by Kuroshi
I think they mean the chest full of reagents. I'd have to run the game to check, though.

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2002 1:17 am
by SnowyThing
I believe that the largest mystery in all of Serpent Isle is the stunning fact that there are NO toddlers or babies in cribs or any children at all. (Cantra doesn't count. Since she was training to become a knight she is a woman.) So... there aren't any... at all. Kinda makes you wonder. In fifty or so years, would SI be barren? No children equals no people. Well, Automatons would still be around... but no people. Would it turn into 'Planet of the Gwani'? Homage to Planet of the Apes.

Though, this does raise another question. When the Avatar had sex with the Bar Wench (can't remember her name) in Monitor, would she have become pregnant? I don't recall seeing a 'Squire Condom' anywhere. Also, with Frigidazzi. Perhaps their love children would take over the Serpent Isle? Since one would be in Moonshade and the other in Monitor... it would be full of conflict. Mind over matter, as it were. Magic versus brute strength.
Then what would happen to Fawn? Would it crumple into ruins? Just like the Serpent Gates? Fawn does have an Oracle, and most ruins do have some 'worship' or 'Godly' place or object.

Which brings me to another question. Since Dupre was sacrificed for the true balance of the world, does that make him God? Savior? If so, couldn't he just 'create' more people to live in Serpent Isle? Wouldn't that turn into another 'Fellowship' scheme? Dupre's Fellowship wouldn't be bad... but some anti-fellowship group may be created and cause the same problems as did in Britannia. Would the Avatar return? Would another 'hero' come to save the day? I don't think there are Moongates in Serpent Isle, but Teleport Storms maybe?



Just some wild thoughts.
A few of them like 'Dupre' having his own following in a new Ultima game might be kinda strange to see. Save the world again.

~Snowy

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2002 6:08 am
by suraimu
I'm a Dupresian!

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2002 8:23 am
by SnowyThing
Yeah, well, Shamino is my man. ;)
He likes RuPaul.

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2002 9:40 am
by IgnitusDragonn
Snowy never shuts up, I apologize for this inconvenience.

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 3:53 am
by Darke
Ignitus doesn't either, I apologize for this inconvenience.

Darke
(Well _someone_ had to say it. *grin*)

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 6:18 am
by XxVenomxX
Thank you.

heh

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 6:58 am
by SnowyThing
Aiiiieeee!

*runs into a corner of the room.*

Let me be!

I give up!

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 7:27 am
by IgnitusDragonn
Darke, I wouldn't speak if I were you ;)
Besides, me and Snowy(and others as well) bring life to this forum.

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 7:52 am
by SnowyThing
Ignitus and I are going to paint the town red.... :D

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 8:13 am
by Dominus
Yeah, and most of the stuff you talk about is soooooooooo witty and interesting and even on topic that newcomers to the forums are bound to get their questions answered just by reading it...

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 8:40 am
by XxVenomxX
Why not just rename the forums to Ignitus and Snowy's playground? "We turn every thread into the Sparks Ass Thread :D"

:P

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 9:06 am
by IgnitusDragonn
I always answer new-comers questions, and yes, I agree with the renaming- but with a minor difference, it should be, "Ignitus's Playground, Snowy and others are welcome."
:D

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 2:28 pm
by SnowyThing
Hey, at least I'm welcome here. Other forums treat me like Yurel. :P

Can I have some cheese? :)

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 2:53 pm
by Darke
/me paws Yurel^WSnowyThing some cheese.

Re: Ultima 7 Mysteries...o.O

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 3:21 pm
by SnowyThing
Thank you! Thou art kind, kind, kind! Is it safe for Yurel to go home now?

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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 4:20 pm
by corbomite
"I think they mean the chest full of reagents. I'd have to run the game to check, though."


I forget what is in the chest, but I believe it is in the dining room. It has nothing to do with the magic weapons in the back.

Stone Canopy

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 11:17 am
by Chris Schumacher
[Author: IgnitusDragonn
Date: 07-12-02 10:51

Remember that place with the stone canopy, and when you stood in the middle of it, lightning struck at you? or the house near Vesper(but further north into the woods right after the swamp)
w/ the gargoyle?
I'm sure theres many others, I can't remember right now, but wouldn't it be nice if they were explained someway?]

Does anyone have coordinates for these two locations?