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Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 10:55 pm
by SnowyThing
I was just playing BG this morning and stopped by the baker. Once he puts the dough in the baking hearth and he steps away to prepare another piece, the food pops up into it's edible form.
Now this is where it duplicates........ when he walks over to the food that just popped up from the dough in the hearth, pick it up before he picks it up and stuff it in Iolo or something. He will continue to pick up the now gone food. He will walk to a table and drop down a 'duplicate' of the item that you took.
Strange, eh? If he can pull things out of mid-air, why does he even both baking?
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 10:59 pm
by SnowyThing
Then after a little while it corrects itself. When he bends over to pick up the foodstuff that you took, he walks back over to the table to drop the food, but instead when he drops the food, the dough he was preparing during the cooking process disappears into his hands, then the process goes on again.
Also, when the baker delays in picking up flour, the baking time increases significantly. Makes me wonder if the hearth is timed with the Bakers schedual?
Just thoughts.
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 12:17 am
by wjp
It's a magic bakery; the bread is ready exactly when the baker wants it to be
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 12:58 am
by SnowyThing
This also occurs in Lord British's castle kitchen/bakery. Except that I didn't harass any of the cooks there. I thought each NPC was different. Once one action gets screwed up or bugs on one NPC, the others that do the same action suffer as well?
Sort of like a plague... or even a strike, as the Bakers go.
Dunno. I suggest trying it to see if it will happen with you.
~Snowy
It could be a serious bug if you break other NPC's scheduals(sp?)
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 4:46 am
by Roman
well, I break npc's schedules by killing them and it isn't a bug.
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 4:58 am
by XxVenomxX
This happened in the original. If you went to Zorn in Minoc, and kept taking his blanks after he put them on the anvil, eventually he would put down blanks of the Black Sword. I soon had 3 black sword blanks without having visited the Isle of Fire yet.
I suppose this is something similar.
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 6:50 am
by IgnitusDragonn
This is an original bug even though you didn't note any opinion otherwise, if the usecode had some sort of "breadthere" flag it would fix that, I mean, if the baker went to get bread and then the game checked to see if it was there or not, you wouldn't have the problem.
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 6:58 am
by drcode
The schedules aren't controlled by usecode; we had to code them by hand. They could be improved to be more realistic, but nobody thinks it's all that important yet. We have talked about making them scriptable, but that's still a bit in the future.
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 7:02 am
by IgnitusDragonn
Schedules are set in that schedule.dat file as far as I know, I'm not saying they are controlled by usecode, I'm saying that the action of baking is controlled by usecode(to the best of my knowledge).
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 7:08 am
by wjp
No, as DrCode said, we had to code the action of baking by hand. (Same for sewing, playing, patrolling, smithing, etc...)
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 7:17 am
by IgnitusDragonn
Oh I see, so you don't have some type of, err...way of finding if there is bread that is actually there...or better yet have the same item(as was baked) pass into the bakers inventory and then desposited on the table?
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that sort of a scripted type thing? In context, shouldn't it be in usecode?
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 8:05 am
by SnowyThing
Well, it does seem to me as a serious bug. Where are you supposed to get your food from once the baker breaks? That, and when you break one baker, they are all affected. Am I supposed to BUY my own food from the lady at the tavern? I don't think so, that would completely take away the whole meaning of the 'Avatar'.
Here is a situation that I believe would be a result of this problem.
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Iolo: "Is that virtuous?"
Avatar: "Shut up and just stuff this food non-chalantly in your backpack!"
Iolo: "Die!"
Avatar: "Don't attack me, since I stole all the food from the Baker, he has developed a complex so he can't bake."
Iolo: "Die!"
Spark: "Aiiieeeee!" *runs into a corner.*
Guard: "Thou ragamuffin! Wilt thou come quietly?"
Avatar: "Vas Flam Corp!"
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See how a seemingly innocent situation can turn into a major problem?
*hugs DrCode so he can fix it.*
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 8:32 am
by IgnitusDragonn
*offers Dr Code some silverleaf donuts and a night on the weekend with any selection of my lovely tavern wenches*
What can I say? I have ties with the House Of Comforts.
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 8:39 am
by SnowyThing
Yeah, well... DrCode, I have a free enrollment into the Doctor school of your choice, just for you.
Also, a free stay at 'The Bath House' in Buccaneers Den.
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 8:44 am
by IgnitusDragonn
However, I have four girls from the Bath House(one might be a guy, I'm not sure) who you may take anywhere you'd like, not restricted just at the bath house.
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 8:56 am
by SnowyThing
Yeah, well, Lord British is willing to give over his reign to you, DrCode.
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 9:10 am
by IgnitusDragonn
Don't listen to Snowy, hes the anti-avatar.
Bad Snowy...promising things only I can give.
Re: Food Duplicates in BG.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2002 9:11 am
by SnowyThing
*frowns.* But I can promise you riches beyond your wildest fantasy.
I can also let you drop the Silver Seed and let it fit perfectly in the wittle hole.