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Forging swords

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 2:50 am
by Darkmoon
I read a while ago that forging swords was a feature in Ultima 7 but due to a bug you couldn't do it in the game.
Will forging be enabled in exult? I think it would be really cool if you could forge your own weapons.

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 4:20 am
by Dominus
I'm not so sure if it was due to a bug or more like not implemented. The only weapon you can forge is the Blacksword...

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 6:10 am
by wjp
This was unimplemented in the original. It should be possible to implement in exult once our usecode editing capabilities mature a bit, but it won't be easy.

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 7:26 am
by Soul Harvester
There were a lot of features that could have been easily implemented and in fact WERE planned (such as harvesting crops, sewing clothes, etc) but weren't put out with the final release. This is why some things are VERY complete (able to make cakes, cookies, and bread from basic ingredients, flower and water, making dough, baking, etc) and then others have all the pieces (blacksmithing, with the hammer, the tongs, the the sword blanks & bars/metal, trough, bellows & fire pit, anvil, then tailoring has the scissors, cloth, bulk cloth, different materials, etc) but you can't make em. NPC's somewhat mirror this, in the fact that an NPC blacksmith will place a sword blank, get it hot, then pound it with a hammer, but you won't actually be able to make any weapons from it.

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 7:53 am
by XxVenomxX
Interestingly, in the original U7 (I say that, because I dont think it works in Exult) if you went to a blacksmith, Zorn in particular, and took the heated blanks off of the anvil while he was hammering, he would walk back to the forge and put down a new blank. If you keep taking his blanks, eventually he will put down a black sword blank, and if you take that, more will follow. I think I still have some pictures of that somewhere...
Oh yeah, here they are, in this directory:

http://venom.gamersgraveyard.com/Misc/

Just an interesting item, since the topic was brought up :)

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 5:39 pm
by sprodfish
how do you make anything different from bread starting with flour?

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 6:36 pm
by Oblivious
Roll it up and then let Willy place it in the stove. Other than that, nothing, to my knowledge. They probably intended for you to be able to make things out of the wooden boards and logs, too, since there's a saw in the game and a woodmill. The honey and empty jars might have had a purpose, too (not the honey you find in the Bee Cave, the orange jars.)

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2001 11:35 am
by Torgus Dragon
i don't remember but how extensive is the ability to mine? can you mine gold or only old? and do you have to use a pick axe? or those machines?...uhh and wine making....ya....it would be interesting if they added theses...but i bet they will not. it would make it more like uo....blah im out peace

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2001 11:35 am
by Torgus Dragon
old=ore

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2001 2:04 pm
by Stephan
Oh, by the way...

More like UO = a Bad Thing (tm).

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2001 8:54 pm
by Oblivious
Who said anything about wanting it more like UO? We just wanna give the Avatar more fun tasks and junk to do.

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2001 4:51 am
by XxVenomxX
Torgus Dragon did:
"it would be interesting if they added theses...but i bet they will not. it would make it more like uo....blah im out peace"

hehe

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2001 3:04 pm
by Kurt
you can't make wine in UO, or mine gold (thankfully). you can mine gold coloured ore, but it's not gold. You have to tame dragons and sit around shouting 'all kill' for a few hours to 'mine' gold.

There's a lot of features that seem incomplete in U7, really... I'd like to see some things implemented, even though they're not really necessary. I mean, what's the point in forging your own swords when it's dead easy to get a good magic weapon anyway, and doing the forge of virtue quest gets you the best weapon without too much difficulty (much like the U8 slayer, except you get stat bonuses too). It'd be fun to make a sword in U7, but is ultimately useless :(

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2001 4:40 pm
by XxVenomxX
Aren't games about fun though? Sitting in chairs in U7 is useless, except for the fact that it adds to realism, and more realism makes the game a bit more fun! Same for such things as forging weapons! I'd personally enjoy defeating enemies with weapons created by my own hand :) Different strokes for different folks. While I know I've presented myself as a 'purist', I think some additions such as this could add some more atmosphere. Just my 2 cents. Or, gold, as it were. :P

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2001 9:28 am
by artaxerxes
Or even better: forging your own magic weapons!

Artaxerxes

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2001 11:08 am
by XxVenomxX
Yeah, forge a weapon, and be able to enchant it. :)

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:26 am
by Kim Alaba Paler
You noticed it too venom? I discovered it when I took away the anvil, Zorn just keep putting blanks in the pit and fired it, the third blank turned into a two handed one. I wonder what sword would it become.

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:10 pm
by Gotcha!
Venom's post was made 17 years ago. Just a heads up.
Jeez, I was a young lad back then. :(

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:10 am
by monotremata
Oh my god I don't even think I knew that Exult even existed yet! I was playing them in hyperspeed with the old Ultima Collection CD still hahaha. I think I barely found out about MAME around then.

Re: Forging swords

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:45 pm
by Gotcha!
I think 1.2 was the first Exult version I used.
Before that time I furiously held on to several old computers just to play older games. I had a 286 and a 486DX aside from my Pentium-something. And a switchbox between my screen, mouse and keyboard and 3 pc's so I didn't need three of everything.
Good times.

Thanks to DOSBox, Exult and other old game reviving projects I could finally say goodbye to my collection of hardware. Made it a lot easier to walk through my room! :)