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Joinable NPC

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:53 pm
by keldorn
Hi all, thanks for making the exult and mods, really enjoyed them. With the Keyring mod, it seems like Mariah has a gump and spellbook but is she joinable? I tried talking to her but couldn't get the join option. Is the following list complete? Thanks.

Blackgate:
Iolo
Shamino
Dupre
Sentri
Jaana
Julia
Katrina
Spark
Tseramed
*Laurianna

Serpent Isle
Iolo
Shamino
Dupre
Boydon
Petra
Montegro
Sethys
Wilfred

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:54 pm
by keldorn
Oh ya I missed out Stefano for Serpent Isle.

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:31 pm
by Achile Dragon
And Luther have a paperdoll (Strange)

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:11 pm
by Crysta the Elf
you forgot Gwenno, Selina (she only joins for a short while.. but she does still join), and the various random automatons in SI

I *think* that with the latest versions of the key ring mod that Mariah will offer to join your party after you clear up the problems with the ether (that would be the tetrahedron generator, right?)

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:11 pm
by keldorn
Ah yes, how can I forget Selina, the little doublecrosser. As for Gwenno, I can't remember her joining, I may be wrong.

Oh have the clear up the tetrahedron generator first is it, can't wait to try it out tonight. Her paperdoll looks fantastic. :)

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:46 am
by Gileathane Dragon
Gwenno can join the party in Serpent Isle.

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:22 am
by Vasculio294
In my game i always get Mortegro, Gwenno and Selina in my party "Legit"

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:30 am
by TdI
>And Luther have a paperdoll (Strange)

I think Luther joins you after the Banes have been released

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:39 am
by marzo
I think Luther joins you after the Banes have been released
I think that he was *meant* to in the original plotline; but in the game as is, he is dead after the banes are released. You can *ask* him to join (after you defeat him in combat, IIRC), but he won't due to his duties in Monitor.

*Wilfred*, on the other hand, is alive after the banes are released (probably due to hiding under a rock or something) and will join you if asked.

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:50 am
by Achile Dragon
Other joinable member but not implented: Fedabiblio have a paperdoll too.

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:32 pm
by keldorn
I tried destroying the Tetrahedron generator and viola, Mariah does join and guess what, all the spell casting NPC are able to cast non healing spells now, I have an entire party of spell casters.:) One problem though is that all are unable to cast any Linear spells, keep saying dont have OO reagents, wonder what it means. Tried the level 8 Firesnake but have no effect also.

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:14 pm
by Crysta the Elf
could someone post the paperdolls for fedabiblio and luther please? cause i sure as heck dont see them in game or in ES

unless you mean they have a paperdoll body but no/a generic head.. in which case thats no proof of anything

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:16 pm
by Crysta the Elf
oh.. and their spellcasting is supposed to be done with their new character specific equipment rather than an actual spellbook.. unless you mean something else

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:20 pm
by marzo
One problem though is that all are unable to cast any Linear spells, keep saying dont have OO reagents, wonder what it means.
It means there is a bug in the usecode :-)
Tried the level 8 Firesnake but have no effect also.
Ack. That is because I removed the spell but forgot to actually remove the in-game choice (I removed it because I am planning on cloning/improving the Black Sword's Fire power for it, as the old version was too hackish).

In any case, I fixed both problems and have uploaded a new version to my website.

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:07 pm
by keldorn
Wow thanks fort the update. May I add another oddity, that is, at the point when Mariah joins the party, before the conversation is ended, there is an option to ask her about "Cast Spell". However once the conversation has ended and she's in the party, the "Cast Spell" dialogue is gone. But if she's asked to leave, its possible to ask her to "Cast Spell" again, even though she's not in the party.

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:39 am
by marzo
[...]there is an option to ask her about "Cast Spell". However once the conversation has ended and she's in the party, the "Cast Spell" dialogue is gone.
Fixed, new version uploaded.

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:33 pm
by keldorn
Hi Marzo, I'd downloaded the latest versions and am glad that the Linear spells are now working, and these spells are free.:) Regarding Firesnake, the option is gone now but replaced with a "Heal". This spell works but I'm not sure if it uses 3 or 8 mana. As for Mariah, yes she has the "Cast Spell" option while in party but is it possible to retain the options of buy spells/reagents/potions when asked about job? It will be really useful to have them, just like Laurianna (for buying reagents), and Sentri (for training). Its like having the shopkeepers with on the way. Come to think of it, if Iolo can sell bows/ammo and Julia make something, it will be totally awesome.

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:01 pm
by marzo
Laurianna sells reagents while in the party???? *checks* Whoops, another bug right there. For the record, I disagree with the party-member salesman idea -- they should simply be carrying the supplies with them instead, and would have no way to replenish their stock.

That said, I will add the spells option for Mariah. I also have plans to give her potion-brewing capabilities in the future. Julia, Iolo and Shamino haven't been forgotten, and will have similar abilities in the future -- and I will likely also improve Tseramed's ability to make his namesake arrows. But more details will come only when those things are done :-)

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:32 am
by Vasculio294
Mariah is joinable? I don't remember that!

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:07 am
by marzo
Mariah is joinable? I don't remember that!
She is joinable only in the Keyring mod, not in the original.

Re: Joinable NPC

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:48 pm
by Norseman
How 'bout making Trellek joinable? He even has a paperdoll, IIRC