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[19:54:15] <WilliamC> I'm trying to compile but I'm getting errors I don't understand.
[19:57:23] <WilliamC> Is this thing on?
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[20:06:53] <WilliamC> Hi?
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[20:10:38] <WilliamC> Hi?
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[20:11:55] <WilliamC> hi?
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[20:30:51] <Sevalecan> bye?
[20:38:22] <WilliamC> I need help with compiling Exult using the SVN version.
[20:39:08] <Sevalecan> I havent done that in an eternity but whats the problem? :P
[20:40:10] <WilliamC> Errors I don't understand.
[20:40:45] <Sevalecan> yes
[20:40:47] <Sevalecan> but what are they
[20:40:48] <Sevalecan> :P
[20:41:32] <WilliamC> I get a linking error regarding some file called expack.exe
[20:42:13] <Sevalecan> http://rafb.net/paste
[20:42:16] <Sevalecan> try pasting the error there?
[20:42:24] <WilliamC> and a bunch of errors regarding exult.pch
[20:43:57] <WilliamC> http://rafb.net/p/DkiNta50.html
[20:45:11] <WilliamC> I think the problem might be the use of the wrong type of backslash.
[20:45:24] <Sevalecan> nah
[20:45:27] <Sevalecan> windows can use either
[20:45:40] <Sevalecan> I think the problem is the project didnt build the precompiled header
[20:45:54] <WilliamC> Wonder why not.
[20:45:55] <Sevalecan> but I don't know enough about MSVC or anything to help you with that
[20:51:17] <WilliamC> The header files are not in the right places
[20:54:04] <WilliamC> and some header files are missing.
[21:09:46] <WilliamC> Also it's not compatible with the latest version of MSVC
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[21:27:06] <Marzo> @WilliamC: The main issue is that nobody in the team (except for Lanica) uses MSVC to compile Exult
[21:27:37] <WilliamC> I have MSys installed.
[21:27:44] <Marzo> (when I am on Windows)
[21:28:18] <WilliamC> I just like the ease of use that MSVC has.
[21:28:19] <Marzo> The compilation instructions for MinGW/msys on readme.win32 are sufficient to compile Exult
[21:28:54] <Marzo> I tested them in a clean WinXP installation, so they should work correctly
[21:28:55] <WilliamC> Why does Exult suck up a lot of CPU?
[21:29:07] <Marzo> What scaler are you using?
[21:29:35] <WilliamC> The one that rounds off all of the edges, Super something.
[21:29:55] <Marzo> Also: is smooth scrolling enabled?
[21:30:04] <WilliamC> Yeah
[21:30:23] <Marzo> These represent most of the CPU usage of Exult
[21:30:51] <WilliamC> Super2Sal
[21:31:00] <WilliamC> Super2XSaI that is
[21:32:18] <WilliamC> I'm just trying to build another version because the snapshot is about a month old.
[21:32:46] <Marzo> The snapshot represente the current state of SVN trunk
[21:33:06] <WilliamC> So, it's virtually no different?
[21:33:19] <Marzo> Unless you are fiddling with the source, there is nothing to be gained by compiling a newer version
[21:33:39] <Marzo> (other than you can use more aggressive optimizations, if you like)
[21:33:55] <WilliamC> That's what I was trying to do.
[21:34:48] <WilliamC> How do you install the keyring mod?
[21:35:17] <Marzo> The readme has detailed intructions for that
[21:35:43] <Marzo> Basically, find the folder of BG that contains the 'static' folder
[21:35:47] <WilliamC> Last time I tried that it didn't seem to take.
[21:35:53] <WilliamC> I'll try it again
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[21:36:02] <WilliamC> The keyring is pretty nifty for key clutter.
[21:36:03] <Marzo> Create a 'mods' folder there and unzip the Keiring zip file to that mods folder
[21:36:32] <Marzo> Just a heads up, the keyring itself is a rether minor part of the Keyring mod
[21:36:44] <WilliamC> What's the rest of it?
[21:38:14] <Marzo> There is a quest to obtain the keyring; the whole of the quests & iteractions mod (except for the rune of honor quest); an NPC spellcasting system, so that party members can cast magic; you can meditate in the shrines of the virtues and view the Codex; expanded Orb of the Moons; etc.
[21:38:31] <WilliamC> oh. nice
[21:38:44] <Marzo> The readme has lots of spoilers, including the orb of the moons map
[21:39:22] <WilliamC> I pretty much know all of the spoilers already.
[21:40:02] <WilliamC> Is there a way to disable the voice of the Guardian?
[21:40:15] <WilliamC> .Hearing his taunting gets kinda old.
[21:40:22] <Sevalecan> yes, that is precisely the thing to do, avatar!
[21:40:33] <Marzo> You can disable speech in the audio options
[21:40:49] <Marzo> The guardian's face will still show up, though
[21:41:00] <WilliamC> Yeah, but he does kinda look funny.
[21:42:07] <Sevalecan> I wish there was an exult equivalent for all the dos games I enjoyed
[21:42:07] <Sevalecan> :P
[21:42:16] <WilliamC> DosBox works pretty good.
[21:42:24] <Sevalecan> horrendously slow for me
[21:42:29] <Sevalecan> and plus there's no source to play with
[21:42:30] <Sevalecan> ;)
[21:42:35] <WilliamC> Yeah, there is.
[21:42:40] <Sevalecan> no, no
[21:42:45] <Sevalecan> I mean source for the games themselves
[21:42:45] <Sevalecan> :P
[21:42:48] <WilliamC> oh
[21:43:01] <WilliamC> We don't even have the source of Ultima 7.
[21:43:11] <Sevalecan> no
[21:43:20] <Sevalecan> but we have the source for exult ;)
[21:43:35] <Sevalecan> which is just as good
[21:44:44] <WilliamC> It's kind of funny how Ultima got smaller, land wise, in the newer versions.
[21:45:08] <WilliamC> If you look at Ultima 1 it was bloody huge.
[21:45:25] <Sevalecan> yeah :/ I like the idea of a huge rpg :P
[21:45:28] <Sevalecan> think daggerfall ;)
[21:45:38] <WilliamC> Well, off to eat something, BBS
[21:45:49] <Sevalecan> k
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[22:32:25] <WilliamC> I love cheating in the game and casting "dance" at a Fellowship meeting.
[22:33:51] <Sevalecan> I always enjoyed cheating
[22:34:04] <Sevalecan> ultima underworld 1 is probably the only ultima game I've completed without cheating ;)
[22:34:11] <WilliamC> Well, cheating too much ruins the game, but I honestly hate having to use regents.
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[23:45:13] <Keelhaul> you buffoons
[23:45:47] <Sevalecan> you buffoon